Immune System

Improving immune function is not complicated at all.   Do we really need to know which cells act in an ‘immune’ capacity?   Or what each one secretes? And in what sequence? And how to stimulate the cells to secrete this or that?
OR, might there be an intelligent plan already in place that simply waits for common sense nourishment?  Your body is plenty smart and knows exactly what has to be done so don’t worry.  Take a deep breath.  You’ll be fine.

In my clients, a ‘low’ immunity has 3 main contributors

  1. Low energy (This is HUGE. In other words, you are chronically tired and thus don’t have enough energy to fund your natural immune function. Go to the Fatigue Page)
  2. Pharmaceuticals (that is what the doc prescribed or what you are OTCing yourself on (aka drug store stuff))
  3. Recurring, self-devaluating thoughts

So here is how to address each of these…

Fatigue

Heating Pad

The Fatigue Post has lots on this but by way of summary…The main energy consumers in the body are the digestion and the immune response.  That is why appetite drops when your immune system engages.  If you have plenty of energy, you may feel a little sluggish when your immune system cuts on.  If you are already tired and your immunity cuts on – just go to bed – if not, you will make matters worse.  Your intelligent body is trying to save your life – cooperate with it.  There are herbal and non herbal interventions.

On the non-herbal side, your most important ally is the heating pad, BECAUSE to boost your own immune function the body will attempt to raise your temp.  That’s called a fever.  (For fever factoids see the Kid’s Remedies post)  The speed at which white blood cells move (chemotaxis) doubles for every degree increase in body temperature.  So at 101 deg they are moving 8X faster than normal.  Good, right?  If you have no energy your body won’t be able to raise its temp so this happens, so get the heating pad and help it.  See step 3 in this post.

It is very easy to take care of low energy with herbs if your digestive and circulation systems are working (If you suspect they are not, visit the Fatigue Post for dietary suggestions.)  In fact, herbal ‘immune stimulators‘ basically increase energy.   I recommend lots of Energ-V (#875-8 ) (4B, 4D) AND one of the following: Korean Ginseng (#665-4) (4B, 3D)  if you have had a chronic unresponsive condition, or,  Wild American Ginseng (#725-8) (2B, 2D) if you have pain, a heated condition, or inflammation repeatedly.  Reduce quantities as you improve.  Also you can stop making the matter worse by ceasing any exercise program.  Wait until you have energy to waste and then start exercising.   Now read the Fatigue Post. And check out the section entitled Lifestyle Compensations too.  If sleep isn’t happening, read that doc to find what can be done.  We break all day and fix all night.  If you don’t fix, you will be and feel ‘broken down’.

Pharmaceuticals and Over-The-Counter Drugs

Unfortunately you’ll need to talk to your doc about the drugs you are on.   The Unsupportive Methods post explains how to find out what your drugs are doing to you.   He won’t agree with me but he should know that steroids impair immune function.  There are other drugs that do too, and OTCs as well.  Sometimes herbs can circumvent this impairment, sometimes not.  Read the Pharm Pactoid below, and if you are the unfortunate victim of chronic anti-biotic/anti-fungal use then

You must increase your energy
You must understand the role of infection and re-establish your digestive machine
You must investigate alternatives BEFORE your next hit. Look into the remedies for the system affected whether respiratory, urinary, bowel, skin, etc to nourish that function so it is not so vulnerable.

Self-Devaluating Thoughts

Here you need to pay attention to what you hear yourself saying about yourself.  Examples: “Gosh, I’m so slow”, “Why can’t I remember anything.”   “I am just so dumb.”   “I just can’t do anything.”  “Leave it to me to be the one to screw up”,   “I just can’t do anything right.”   “Oh, I screwed up again”,  “Nobody would want to bother with me.”  “Nobody has time for me.”  Get the picture?  Beating yourself down like this zaps your energy.  Now there are historical reasons why you do this.  I address these in my book.  For the long life ahead of you, you have got to stop these attacks on your own self.  These thoughts inhibit the release of healing neurotransmitters and other signalers and such – which we need to heal!   Fortunately there is an ElectroMedicine device that can stimulate these as we are getting better.

Pharmaceutical Phactoids – In the unlikely event that your doc failed to warn you that…

Tendon Rupture, a Little-Known Side Effect of Antibiotics

Here’s one more for the long list of tales about how the drugs we take to heal us can end up causing harm: The FDA has announced that it will now require a boxed warning (its strongest warning on a label) about the risk of tendonitis and tendon rupture associated with use of fluoroquinolone antibiotics — such as ciprofloxacin (Cipro) — along with mandated distribution of a newly detailed medication guide to be dispensed by pharmacies with the drug.

Fluoroquinolones such as ciprofloxacin (Cipro and Proquin XR), gemifloxacin (Factive), levofloxacin (Levaquin), moxifloxacin (Avelox), norfloxacin (Noroxin), and ofloxacin (Floxin) are commonly prescribed for upper respiratory, gastrointestinal and urinary tract infections (UTIs).

FDA-approved labeling for these drugs mention the risk of tendonitis, but clearly public awareness is not widespread as the FDA continues to receive reports of tendon-related adverse events related to them. The FDA has received more than 400 reports of tendon rupture plus more than 1,200 of tendon problems, and, it’s possible this represents only the tip of the iceberg since it’s suspected that just a small fraction of cases are reported to the FDA.

Although anyone who takes fluoroquinolone drugs is at risk, the likelihood of having tendon problems is higher if you are over 60, taking  steroids (corticosteroids), or are a kidney, heart or lung transplant recipient.

Symptoms of tendonitis include pain, swelling, inflammation and tearing, all found most commonly in the Achilles tendon, shoulder or hand. Ruptures can occur without warning (some patients report feeling a snap or pop soon after starting treatment), but more typically patients feel pain or inflammation for days or weeks before the tendon actually ruptures. Another symptom is easy bruising right after an injury in a tendon area. These problems can occur during or after taking fluoroquinolones — even months later, according to the FDA.

If you develop tenderness or other such problems, avoid exercising or overuse of the area. Any such symptoms should be immediately reported to your doctor in conjunction with your request to be switched to another antibiotic of a different class. Most serious problems may be avoided if you pay attention to the first signs of trouble.

Source(s):  Sidney Wolfe, MD, Director of The Health Research Group at Public Citizen and editor of www.worstpills.org, in Washington, DC.

©Pat Block ND 2009

101 Comments

  1. Eileen Lee Mears on January 4, 2012 at 4:14 am

    I have been on your website frequently this past year and it is wonderful….it is so informative….i was calling earlier about an appointment for ADD as last time we dealt with my hair pulling and what you recommended stop me dead in my tracts so gentley….it was a such a relief not to have to contend with this anymore….However I also realize that when the body gets out of balance it comes back…so my husband and I both have changed our eating habits to more natural foods…lots of water and probiotics….(organic recipies and home made salad dressings from The Beauty Detox Solution which has alot of the same info on your website.) I will be going back on the Chinese Nervous Fatigue and try the other two recommended herbs for the ADD as well…Six months ago I got off my Add medication becasue it wasn’t helping two weeks out of the month when I have a hormonal flux…(ie changes in mood, thoughts, coordination, cravings, forgetfulness so I may need an appointment for that unless the three herbs for ADD help with that…..) .I am so grateful for your work and reasearch and will continue to follow the advice you have posted (Blood type eating and Insulin resistence recommendations…..Thank you again for making all this information so available….I still have my account with nature sunshine so when I order I hope you are still getting the financial gain when I order, if not let me know.

  2. Lynne C on January 5, 2012 at 4:01 am

    Pat, I LOVE your new website. It is FANTASTIC and I know it took alot of work but boy it’s worth it to all of us.

  3. Kelly R on October 31, 2012 at 8:41 am

    Hi Eileen,
    I was surprised to see your comment about hair pulling as I have the same problem. I’m wondering what the recommendation is for that? Thank you in advance for any help! I thought I was finally done with it after doing it for about 3 years. The urge went away almost completely for about 5 months and then it came back with a vengeance.
    Thank you in advance!

  4. Hannah on May 5, 2013 at 1:57 am

    Has anyone tried the white oak bark to do with receeding gums and loose teeth? Has it helped and worked?

    • PatBlockND on May 5, 2013 at 2:05 am

      Yes and yes. It works quickly with receding gums but takes a while to address loose teeth. There are, however, underlying issues that should be addressed like circulation and inflammation issues. Rosehips helps both of those as do other nutrients.

      • Lynne A on April 28, 2015 at 1:41 am

        How does it help receding gums? Please explain.

  5. Anthony Pantaleone on July 31, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Hi Pat,

    I am in good health but have receding gums. I just ordered your recommendations (White Oak Bark and Myrrh oil). I also have cold hands and feet all year round. What else can I take to address the circulation issues? Thank you!

    • PatBlockND on July 31, 2013 at 3:47 am

      Hey Anthony,
      The White Oak Bark will give you amazing results, but you are right about your grouping of symptoms being related to circulation issues. Are you on a medication that impairs good circulation?
      I refer you to the circulation document for the reasons for poor circulation, and recommend you consider Bilberry 2B, 2D. Also follow your blood type diet as there are foods that thicken blood depending on your blood type. So I would avoid those.
      Pat

  6. Carolyn Bolchoz on August 21, 2013 at 9:17 am

    My dentist wants to pull my tooth because I have a large cavity, is there anything I can do or take to make the cavity go away? I have been taking herbs about a year and So much better, used to be extremely inflammed, no more! Also no energy, so much better! Love this site and appreciate all this information. Thank you.

    • PatBlockND on August 22, 2013 at 7:59 am

      Hey Carolyn,
      It is in your best interest to do all you can and see what ‘something natural‘ can do for you before you undergo medical intervention. Ask about the long term implications of this procedure. Begin brushing with Black Walnut and then do the White Oak Bark tea bag in the area of the tooth. Many people have avoided losing teeth and having root canals but you won’t know until you give serious attention to doing this.
      Pat

      • Carolyn Bolchoz on July 22, 2013 at 10:52 am

        Thank you So much! I have been using the white oak bark in a tea bag, but didn t realize was supposed to put it in boiling water, just spit on it , but guess what? The pain I Was having is gone. I do not want it pulled, don t care what long term etc is, want to keep all my teeth. Will start with Black Walnut asap. I just wasn t sure if it was possible to heal the decay. Thank you for all of your great information.. Been taking herbs for almost a year now, am So much better. My goal is to get off all meds, only 3 to go, one being insulin. Thsnks again. C

  7. Katherine on November 11, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Hi Pat – I am trying desperately to avoid a root canal or extraction. I have pain as well as bone loss in the jaw area of the problem tooth. Can the IN-X packets be done in conjunction with white oak packets, and would this be done on different days? Thank you – your website is incredible.

    • PatBlockND on November 12, 2013 at 7:36 am

      Yes, Katherine, you can do the IN-X with the White Oak Bark, at the same time or on different days. You should also take the IN-X orally because this situation usually results from lowered circulation to the area or lymphatic drainage from the area of the jaw. Confirm by palpating the neck area on the involved side and comparing tenderness or lumps with the opposite side.
      Sometimes because of compromised fluid flow through the area the PEMF is very helpful to facilitate drainage and circulation. You can call around to see who might have one – often chiropractors do.
      Pat

      • Katherine on November 14, 2013 at 4:46 am

        Thank you!

  8. Marilena on January 10, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    Hey there Pat! Wow I stumbled on this website by fluke and boy, am I glad I did. I do have a question though, I was wondering what I could possibly do for red, somewhat swollen gums? Ive tried tea teee oil but that did absolutely nothing. I know that there is laser treatment out there but I much rather use natural remedies. Any suggestions? I would really appreciate a reply. Thank you!

    • PatBlockND on January 10, 2014 at 9:26 am

      The condition you are reporting can be a harbinger of more serious unseen heart tissue issues. But first, the reason Tea Tree didn’t work is because EOs find their greatest application in cold conditions, i.e. if your gums were pale and greyish, then use it. They are hot and swollen so the white oak bark tea bag will help topically but this needs to be addressed from the inside, too.
      SO more importantly I’d be looking at anti-oxidants esp for the heart and vascular system. To this end consider using Grapine HP 2B, 2D and Varigone 2B, 2D to begin.
      Pat

      • Marilena on January 10, 2014 at 11:48 am

        Wow! Thank you so much for the fast reply! Can’t wait to try everything out!

  9. Jenifer Richart on February 6, 2014 at 6:45 am

    Hi Pat, I contacted you a couple weeks back regarding receding gums. I’m currently following your recommendation of INX and IX. I’ve also been brushing 2x/day with black walnut powder for 8 days, and just started the white oak bark tea bags on the gums. My question is how long I can continue the black walnut? Based on what I’m reading, you suggest 2X/for 4 days and then 2X/wk. I’m not getting any relief from the pain and the appearance of the gum line isn’t improving. Can you guide me on the safety of the black walnut and counsel me on realistic expectations for improvement? You have an AWESOME website and I’ve been learning a ton! Thank you for your work in this area!!

    Jen

    • PatBlockND on February 8, 2014 at 9:57 am

      Hey Jenifer,
      It is helpful to know that natural things work gradually, usually. 2 weeks is not a long time in herbal program terms. I’d give the white oak bark some time to work, and remember that the gums are indicators of a weakened digestion. Improving the digestion improves the gums; but improving the gums does not improve digestion. The I-X, with time will help digestion as it is a liver formula. IN-X tells of a lymphatic stagnation issue especially if there is pain. Again, these take time. If you tend to be prone to lymph issues you may want to find a chiro with a PEMF type device or purchase an inexpensive one yourself.
      Pat

      • Jenifer Richart on February 10, 2014 at 10:50 am

        Hi Pat, thank you for your response. I’m wondering if I’m doing too much in my teeth/gum regime? Here’s my regimen: I “blot or tap” 2x/day, am/pm. I brush with black walnut am/pm with a very light flossing prior. I rinse and brush with Auramere herbal toothpaste to remove any residual of the walnut. I then put sea salt and sometimes Vit C ascorbic acid in my waterpik. At night I put the oak bark packs on my gums. My gums seem to be getting worse; I’m trying not to get upset and understand that this’ll take time. I’m afraid to look at them in the mirror, as the coloring is pale and the gums are exposing the edges of some crown work on my 2 front teeth. It’s too upsetting to take stock, but based on how they feel, it seems progress isn’t coming.

        Also, I’m taking INX and IX as instructed and rebounding 9 min/day for liver/lymph support. I’m checking in with my chiro on the PEMF therapy as you suggested.

        Should I tackle the digestion thru either 9 days of broth to “reset” my gut, or the HCI therapy or the gentle liver cleanse or is this just too much already for my body?

        • PatBlockND on February 10, 2014 at 2:32 am

          Hi Jenifer,
          Maybe too much attention. Things that I would change are: floss every other day, not 2X/day; use only a very light smear of your toothpaste and there is no need to brush vigorously; use only a soft bristle brush; stop the sea salt and vitamin C in the water pik (these are irritants), and use silver sol instead – after you flush all the salt out of the unit. Take the vitamin C internally.
          Are you dipping the white oak bark tea bags into boiling water and allowing to cool before applying to the gum?
          I will look into adjusting your program.
          Pat

          • Jenifer Richart on February 10, 2014 at 4:28 am

            Pat, to answer a couple questions…I’m barely brushing teeth/gums w/an ultrasoft toothbrush. I’m letting the oak bark teabags soak for 1 min but not letting them cool, so I’ll make that change right away. I will take in all your other suggestions as well. Should I use NSP’s Vit C Ascorbates or another NSP Vit C option?

            Do you approve of the blotting or tapping teeth at gum line at 45 degree angle? (Cure Tooth Decay, author Nagel)

            Jen



  10. Jan on March 30, 2014 at 10:05 am

    Hi Pat,
    I have 2 cavities that have purplish coloring around them.
    Dentists said something is going under the cavity causing the purple to be around tooth and cavity. Any ideas?

    • PatBlockND on April 3, 2014 at 6:22 am

      Hey Jan,
      The blue/purple coloring means lowered circulation. This color is an indicator to us that trying to remedy the situation with anything that requires good circulation (like herbs) may not be effective. So non-herbal interventions like the PEMF are helpful here as is your energy work. Another intervention that I would consider is essential oils applied topically as they are stimulating to local circulation.
      Pat

      • Christy Walker on April 15, 2014 at 8:18 am

        Hi Pat,
        It’s been awhile since I’ve been in but have a question for you. I have a tooth that has started to hurt and when I checked it, it looked a bit grey around the edge. Reading online seems to indicate it’s dying which means a dentist will want to do a root canal or extraction. I want to avoid both. Will these protocols on this page help in your opinion? Should I try all that is listed or is there something else that might help. Thanks for sharing your wisdom and experience.
        Christy

        • PatBlockND on April 18, 2014 at 7:07 am

          Hey Christy,
          The discoloration isusually due to lowered circulation so taking herbs won’t be as effective as something that can better penetrate the tissue, like a PEMF (see above post). Jan used it and in short order the discoloration and pain was gone.
          Pat

          • Gay on December 19, 2014 at 9:59 am

            I am allergic to nuts esp black walnuts. Is there anything else that would be good to brush the teeth with? Thanks I am currently using the whit oak bark but I did not know about the tea bag or boiling water. I was getting blisters from just the herb in my cheek. Thanks



          • PatBlockND on November 24, 2014 at 7:55 am

            Hello Gay,
            It isn’t clear from your post what problem you are trying to address. Plaque? Receding gums? Gum inflammation? Abscess? Cavities?
            Were the blisters caused by the white oak bark or the black walnut?
            And remember, issues with teeth and gums originate in the digestion which should be addressed with the highest priority.
            Pat



          • Gay on December 28, 2014 at 11:38 am

            I apologize for not being clear. I have receding gums and my bottom front teeth are very loose. They were bonded together but the bond broke after many years. Now they are loose. I was using White Oak Bark powder in between the lip and gums at night and it made blisters on my inner lip. When I read about putting it in the tea bag, I started doing that and it quit blistering my lip. I have quit using store bought toothpaste for several months and use pure soap. I was wondering if there was anything like the Black Walnut hulls I could brush with to help with plaque? I am allergic to nuts. Thank you



          • PatBlockND on December 30, 2014 at 3:51 am

            Hey Gay,
            It is also important to put the White Oak Bark teabag in hot water to break it down as I described in this post. Then consider taking PLS II internally 3B, 3D which is a good tissue rebuilder.
            The white oak bark is a nice tooth cleaner and polisher. After using it I would rinse out very well.
            Finally, I have found Silver Shield to be very helpful for inflammation anywhere in the body. Consider swishing and keeping it in mouth after brushing.
            Pat



          • Jordan D. on December 31, 2014 at 12:43 pm

            Pat – I have had a cavity in one of my molars (lower left side) for over two years. I have receding gums and the cavity appears to be below the normal gumline. Also, surrounding the cavity and towards the root there is brown discoloration. At first I thought it might have been from drinking too much black tea, but the two adjacent teeth also appear to have the brown color towards the root. I also discontinued black tea (now primarily green). I am reluctant to go to a dentist and saw that you wrote about using Devil’s Claw. I have started brushing with Devil’s Claw. I understand it may take awhile to see results. Questions: What is the protocol for brushing with Devil’s Claw? Also, why do you suspect that it works? Just curious. Thanks.



  11. Jordan D. on December 31, 2014 at 1:01 am

    Pat – For further clarification, I suspect that the discoloration in my teeth is from poor circulation, so I have also been taking Bilberry and Perfect Eyes (which I believe benefits small capillaries). I tested my PH and it is within the normal range.

    • PatBlockND on January 2, 2015 at 8:50 am

      I agree with poor circulation contributing to the discoloration and the herbs you are taking should help with that issue systemically – even the gums. I brush with White Oak Bark and have seen improvement with enamel integrity. You are right. It takes time. The White Oak Bark teabag will make an improvement in the gums too.
      Pat

      • Jordan D. on January 29, 2015 at 9:58 am

        Pat – Thanks for your response. Is there any chance that using the White Oak Bark in a teabag could prematurely heal my receding gums over the cavity, prior to the cavity being healed? I don’t want to inadvertantly create a problem by covering the cavity. Thanks. Jordan

        • PatBlockND on February 3, 2015 at 9:31 am

          Hey Jordan,
          One can only conjecture that the intelligent body would heal the tooth along with the gums. I would brush the teeth with the white oak bark prior to applying the teabag so that any food residue is removed.
          Pat

  12. Jordan D. on February 8, 2015 at 6:52 am

    Pat – I purchased a PEMF device. Question – Do I just hold it against my jaw (below the discolored teeth) for about 20 minutes, or do I do something else? Thanks.

    • PatBlockND on February 9, 2015 at 7:46 am

      Hey Jordan,
      In addition to the area of the jaw where vessels are feeding the teeth, another beneficial site to apply the PEMF is under the jaw line near the tonsils pointing up towards the mouth.
      Pat

      • Jordan D. on February 10, 2015 at 11:24 am

        I have a couple of titanium plates around my right eye (the bad teeth are on the left side). The instructional videos for the PEMF indicate that use of the PEMF near titanium implants may be uncomfortable. Pointing the PEMF upwards may be possible without affecting the titanium may be possible, but I am not sure. Any thoughts? (Also, do you have a recommendation for a water distiller to use to make ionic colloidal silver – I want to avoid BPA’s in store bought distilled water.) Thanks.

        • atBlockND on February 12, 2015 at 8:46 am

          I understand the company’s caution re titanium plates. However, regarding other magnetic devices and titanium plates, wiki states “Because titanium is non-ferromagnetic, patients with titanium implants can be safely examined with magnetic resonance imaging.” The PEMF is magnetic. If you experience discomfort, cease and desist. ;o)
          Pat
          PS I can’t advise you on water issues.

  13. Lynne A on April 28, 2015 at 1:53 am

    Hello, I developed a abscess last week, affect my tooth, gum, cheek and jaw, with lots of swelling and it is very painful. I have been doing everything I can to avoid loosing this tooth the filling fell out and bacteria must have got into the space. I done charcoal, green tea poultice, now white oak bark. I do not have a dentist, but I brush and clean my own teeth, rinse with tea tree solution, but my gums have been receding now for almost 30 years. I am 51 and I do not want to lose my teeth and this abscess scares me I do not want to develop septicemia. It’s already traveled to my other teeth, I think. My entire right side hurts.

    • PatBlockND on April 29, 2015 at 7:14 am

      The answers to many of your questions can be found in the original post or in the responses to other’s questions. Charcoal is a nice polish but white oak bark is astringent. Follow the directions exactly in the post. I would stop the tea tree as that can be irritating. The whole right side hurting is a sign of lymphatic stagnation and you can usually find out where by palpation. Oil pulling, in my opinion, is a waste of time and oil. Please reread this post, follow the appropriate links, and read the responses.

      • olga on August 15, 2015 at 5:16 am

        Use soft bristle tooth brush.Can use organic white oak bark powder and put between gum and lips at nite and rinse it out in am.can also get white oak bark in tea bags and drink 1 cup 3 times a day. Take a probiotic for poor digestion.usually insuffient HCL.Drink distilled water til mouth clears up

        • PatBlockND on August 19, 2015 at 8:36 am

          First of all the white oak bark needs to be broken down by heat to release its therapeutic value. So the directions given here should be followed as written. Some people experience constipation from drinking the tea so it should only be drunk with severe inflammation of the GI track, and even then there are better remedies. You don’t need to take a probiotic if you balance your digestive pH. And distilled water is unhealthy because the distillation process does not remove volatiles which are harmful, and it removes minerals which are needful.
          Pat

  14. Vicky on April 29, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    Hi Pat,
    My 4 year old daughter, who has Trisomy 21, has cavities. I am doing all I can to get rid of cavities naturally. I am brushing her teeth after every meal plus her snack, 2 teeth at a time, 20 strokes each pair, front and then 20 more strokes in the back. I use Redmond Earthpaste. She still doesn’t rinse, so she swallows. How could I adjust your recipe for the white oak bark for her? She wouldn’t be able to handle the overnight tea bag in her mouth. I’d appreciate your advice very much. Thanks.

    • PatBlockND on April 29, 2015 at 8:14 am

      First, Vicky, it sounds like too much brushing to me. Weak teeth come from weak digestion so make sure all aspects of digestion are working.
      You could replace some of the Redmond clay applications with boiled white oak bark. That is, empty about 7 caps of white oak bark powder into 1 cup water in a small pot and bring to a rolling boil for about 20 seconds (remember it is a bark which needs breaking down). Allow to cool, mix well and pour into ice cube trays evenly distributing the powder. Freeze, and after frozen, empty the cubes into a ziploc bag and keep in the freezer. (This is so you don’t need to make some up every day) Each day take out a cube, place in a glass and allow to melt back to a liquid. Dip her toothbrush into this and lightly go over her teeth with the powder after eating or polishing (redmond). This can also be done at night before bed and it is perfectly safe for her to swallow.
      Pat

      • Vicky on April 30, 2015 at 1:08 am

        Thanks, Pat. I appreciate your valuable help very much.

  15. Vicky on May 5, 2015 at 3:56 am

    Hi Pat,
    I followed the recipe you gave me. It’s quite watery; is that ok?

    • PatBlockND on May 19, 2015 at 1:51 am

      Yes, that is fine. You can make it more pasty by reducing some of the water but the point is to brush with the broken down powder, i.e. the sediment after boiling.
      Pat

      • Vicky on July 28, 2015 at 1:46 am

        Thanks again, Pat!

  16. olga on August 15, 2015 at 5:07 am

    Cold feet and hands usually thyroid is underactive.

    • PatBlockND on August 19, 2015 at 8:30 am

      Olga, did you know that the list of underactive thyroid symptoms in western medicine looks like the list of liver imbalances in Chinese medicine. Please see my endocrine post for more explanation.
      Pat

  17. Jim on September 23, 2015 at 1:55 am

    Hi Pat,

    I just got delivery of some Myrrh and White Oak powder, one thing that I am beginning to question is it says ‘pharmaceutical grade’ on the label… does this mean the active molecules may be have been damaged by processing?

    Would it be better if I can get unprocessed powder instead?

    Great article by the way, very helpful and informative, I really like the tea bag packet idea, fantastic!

    • PatBlockND on September 24, 2015 at 7:45 am

      Hello Jim,
      I’m not sure exactly what you got or where you got it from but ‘Pharmaceutical grade’ is more a marketing term than a valid quality/free-from-contaminants claim. You can try doing the teabag with that and see what happens.
      Pat

  18. monic on October 21, 2015 at 10:20 am

    I’m using 3% Hydrogen peroxide on my gums as mouthwash and it works, nothing worked before. Now I’m going to start using white oak bark. Thank you for info.

    • PatBlockND on December 4, 2015 at 7:43 am

      I’m not sure what you find that H2O2 works for, but keep in mind it is an oxidizer, which means it is aging the tissue. Using it short term for acute infection may seem to work, but there is a price to pay. I think you will find the white oak bark to be soothing and astringing to the gums.
      Pat

  19. Joan on December 20, 2015 at 1:05 am

    Dear Pat, I have found your website while seeking out gum tightening/loose tooth. 4 weeks ago today I fell so hard on my face and loosened a front centre tooth. I went to a dentist 48 hours later, soonest available appointment, and the mobility is a level 1. No sign of infection (yet), but he said it was a wait and see issue that way. He bonded my tooth for one week, the best it felt. The bond was removed and the tooth was just as loose. He then said no more bonding was necessary, and to eat soft food for a few days. He also gave me the chemical Chlorhexidine to apply to the gum around the tooth twice daily, and see him in January. I am so anxious right now as I feel no progress with this tooth mobility. He even said I must chew on the tooth to
    improve it. This just takes me a step backward and the tooth feels even more uncomfortable.
    After finding your website, I got White Oak Powder and have applied the teabag overnight for the
    last six nights over this front tooth. I have not noticed any tightening. I also take coral calcium,
    vit. K2, vit. C powder, magnesium 250 mg., all once per day, as the health store suggested. I
    also picked up Amla powder and take that in water about 3 times per day. The Chlorhexadine scares me a lot, such horrible ingredients. Is there anything else I can do Pat, to promote ligament healing, gum tightening? And something to replace this Chlorhexadine to fight potential infection ( no infection yet). I am determined to keep this tooth as I have nothing wrong with any of my other teeth. Thank you with all of my heart!

    • PatBlockND on February 10, 2023 at 2:09 pm

      Hey Joan,
      First response to any tissue trauma is Distress Remedy. It pulls the tissue out of shock so healing can begin.
      Second to remember is that the older we are the longer it takes for the body to repair so don’t be in a big hurry.
      To improve debris removal and circulation to the area I would find someone who has a PEMF and use it over the area. Often chiros have them.
      I would avoid using the tooth if possible.
      Apply the White Oak bark powder tea bag over the gum above the tooth, not on the tooth.
      I am not a fan of coral calcium.
      To avoid tissue deterioration, rub the http://patblocknd.net/?sn=3859-5 over the area instead of the drug, or in addition to it. Just put a drop of the oil on your finger and rub it on your gums. Sorry about the taste. 2X/day.
      With these applications you need not fear infection. There are Chlorhexidine resistant strains that only your intelligent body can handle.
      Pat

  20. Jc on February 23, 2016 at 2:16 am

    Wow. What a great site!
    I was told by dentist I need 2 root canals. I have been treating teeth with MMS and colloidal silver applications. Cut sugar out of diet. Abscess near gun line has popped up and grayish almost purple gum coloration behind the dying or possibly dead tooth. Trying to heal without invasive root canal (which I refuse to do) or implant.

    Can you help direct me on how to deal with or remedy this situation? Thanks so much. Was going to buy white oak bark ye but wasn’t sure if there was something more appropriatle. I was told a focal infection underneath tooth was the cause Anne seeing what can be done.

    The colloidal silver seemed to help but the discoloration in my gum line near that tooth has me concerned as to what to do next. Thanks you!

    • PatBlockND on February 23, 2016 at 8:55 am

      Yes JC, just follow the directions given above using the essential oils on the flannel at night.
      The abscess is not a bad sign but rather the body getting rid of debris which the clogged lymph system has not passed on to the liver. If it drains, don’t be alarmed. It is an intelligent response of the body. Consider other recommendations above such as the PEMF.
      Pat

  21. Ruth Butler on April 1, 2016 at 6:20 am

    Hi Pat,
    Do you have an alternative to Devil’s Paw. The link no longer leads to a product.
    Thank you!

    • PatBlockND on April 7, 2016 at 10:04 am

      Thanks Ruth,
      You are right, Devil’s Claw is no longer available. Fortunately God’s remedies are abundant and redundant. I believe the saliva can either rebuild the teeth or weaken the teeth and this is related to digestion which is often related to liver function so that is the best place to start.
      Pat

  22. Teresa on July 9, 2016 at 7:48 am

    Pat…What protocol do you recommend for someone who has several amalgams?

    • PatBlockND on July 9, 2016 at 7:48 am

      Hey Teresa,
      Please enter ‘mercury’ in the search box on the upper right of the page and you’ll see several posts where I discuss that topic.
      Pat

      • PatBlockND on July 9, 2016 at 7:48 am

        Hey Teresa,
        Please enter ‘mercury’ in the search box on the upper right of the page and you’ll see several posts where I discuss that topic.
        Pat

  23. Steph on July 25, 2016 at 5:30 am

    Hi Pat!

    I just found your site searching for something that would help my mom with her dental issues. She has had bad teeth for most of her life and her dentist is recommending she get full dentures within a few years because almost all of her teeth are loose and her gums are receded. Do you think using white oak bark would at least help her a bit over time, or should she try something else?

    • PatBlockND on September 4, 2016 at 8:01 am

      Hey Steph,
      Keep in mind thatteeth problems tell of digestive problems so make sure to address those. I would alternate between the White oak Bark and the flannels with the EOs on them.
      Pat

  24. Danette on December 13, 2016 at 6:44 am

    What are your thoughts on using bentonite clay to remineralize teeth? Or as an ingredient for an every day brushing powder?

  25. Yelena on January 10, 2017 at 3:07 am

    Hi Pat.
    I have problems with my front teath my gums are subsiding. I got the white oak bark powder. My question how do I use it and what else do you recommend ?

  26. Yelena on January 10, 2017 at 3:10 am

    Sorry I mean to say my gums are Receding what would you recommend?
    Thank you

    • PatBlockND on January 13, 2017 at 7:15 am

      Hello Yelena,
      Simply put about 1/4 teaspoon in an empty teabag as shown in the photos. Steep it for a minute or so to break down the bark some and then put it between your cheek and gum as described here.
      Pat

  27. GiX on February 24, 2017 at 5:57 am

    Hi Pat,

    Instead of placing the tea bags during the night, it is possible to do two different applications of 3 hours each during the day? I’d not want to accidentally swallow the tea bags during the night…

    Thank you!

    • PatBlockND on January 17, 2018 at 6:41 am

      Yes GiX, that is fine. But as often as I have done this and recommended it, no reports of swallowing the teabag.
      (Sorry for the delay in answering. My website was hacked, then an update crashed it, and I wasn’t getting notifications of posts.)
      Pat

  28. christiane on March 3, 2017 at 10:02 am

    Hi Pat Great site and info! I am (was) having toothache signifying possible root issues in one tooth but since reading this page I think it may be sluggish lymph. Nodes were swollen on one side close to the tooth in question. It’s gone down almost to zero since I put attention on managing the lymph but I know the problem is still lurking so I want to get some of your In-X, White Oak Bark and also Black Walnut to brush with. also have a small cyst on the back of my neck with those products help with that?

    Wondered what you think of the theory of phytic acidic foods and teeth. also you view on bone broth.

    I’m having problems ordering products from your site. Can I call your office to do so? Thanks, Christiane

    • PatBlockND on January 17, 2018 at 6:50 am

      Hey Christiane,
      Sorry for the delay in answering. My website was hacked, then an update crashed it, and I wasn’t getting notifications of posts.
      Yes tooth pain is often associated with sluggish lymph as are ‘cysts’ and I’m glad you are getting relief.
      In my experience working with 1000s of people, problems come from inflammatory foods, and which ones those are depend on your blood type.
      Lymph issues can also come from a congested or deficient liver and if you still have that cyst, consider doing the Gentle Liver Cleanse.
      Pat

  29. Emily on January 29, 2018 at 8:35 am

    Do you have reccomendation for a toothpaste to use alongside the the black walnut powder?

    • PatBlockND on March 12, 2018 at 7:17 am

      Sorry for the delay. My website was hacked, then an update crashed it, and I wasn’t getting notifications of posts.
      Since you are only using a slight smear (less than 1/16 tsp) of toothpaste, any should do fine. A soft bristle brush is advisable.
      Pat

  30. Cathy on April 1, 2018 at 11:54 am

    Hi Pat,
    Thank you for your wonderful website and research. Do you have any suggestions on how to shrink/eliminate a traumatic fibroma on the tongue?
    Thank you,
    Cathy

    • PatBlockND on July 2, 2018 at 6:00 am

      Distress Remedy is best applied to ANY trauma soon after it occurs to get the tissue out of shock so it can heal. That will give the quickest results. Soon after the trauma you can do 3-4 applications at 1/2 hour intervals. If it is an old trauma,say more than several days, then you can still apply it several times a day but it will take longer to see results.
      Pat

      • Cathy on August 10, 2018 at 11:08 am

        Thank you so much, Pat. The trauma is at least a month old at this point. A few days ago I started the Distress Remedy and I am applying it several times a day. I’m hopeful it will improve.

  31. Anita Short on April 16, 2018 at 9:57 am

    Hi Pat
    Just recently we came across your very helpful site. We feel great relief to read that we can do something ourselves for our teeth.We live in Queensland, Australia and would like to start using black walnut and white oak ark for our teeth and receding gums ( periodontal) issues. There are a few sites to order from, but we are not sure which composition we should look for. Here in Australia. Your advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you

    • pwsbuilder on April 17, 2018 at 6:40 am

      Hello Anita,
      At the top of the page on the navigation bar, find the ‘Store’ link and follow the directions to get the herbs I use outside the US.
      Pat

  32. Jen on July 18, 2018 at 12:18 pm

    Do you know what causes white spots on the teeth? What can be done for those? My 10 year old son has some on the bottom of his top front teeth, and I just noticed one on my 8 year old daughters top front tooth too.

    • PatBlockND on September 11, 2018 at 9:06 am

      This may be caused by an energy disturbance on the large intestine meridian which governs the teeth. Holding the ring finger, as simple as that sounds, helps clear obstructions on that meridian. See the simple self help under this link.
      Pat

  33. Jude on July 30, 2018 at 11:55 am

    Do you know how to help teeth that have become translucent? This has just happened to my top two front teeth over the last couple of weeks.

    • PatBlockND on October 11, 2018 at 9:09 am

      Have you recently been put on a medication? This may be caused by a lowered blood circulation to that area….and which may also be affecting other areas too.
      Pat

  34. Leah on August 5, 2018 at 5:09 am

    For loose teeth, can you do the white oak bark on the gums every night? Or is it best to only do it a few times per week? If it’s best to space it out, can you do it every night if you move it to different locations?

    • PatBlockND on July 5, 2018 at 5:48 am

      It is perfectly safe to do the white oak bark teabag every night. You can also alternate by placing a teabag on the upper and lower gums on the right side and then the next night do the same on the left.
      Pat

      • Leah on August 8, 2018 at 1:20 am

        Thank you! Do you think this is the best route to go for loose teeth? I have been dealing with this for 4 months, and my dentist wants me to go see an orthodontist for braces or some kind of appliance. It is so confusing because that doesn’t seem best to me, but I also don’t want my teeth to get any worse. Also, will having white oak bark on my teeth every night cause staining?

        • PatBlockND on July 8, 2018 at 6:46 am

          Yes, I would say it is the best route (plus diet). I don’t see how braces solve the problem – unless you wear them for the rest of your life (?) It is best, clearly, to get your own jaws and gum tissues to hold your teeth in place. You should notice a difference within a week, unless you are doing things to cause your problems. So reduce your inflammation by strictly following the diet according to your blood type.
          I use White Oak bark and have not known it to stain, nor have others.
          Pat

          • Leah on July 8, 2018 at 11:13 am

            Thank you so much!



  35. Lucy on February 6, 2019 at 8:32 am

    Do you have any ideas for night time teeth clenching? I’ve tried magnesium and lavender, and nothing works.

    • pwsbuilder on March 20, 2019 at 11:38 am

      Hello Lucy,
      From my observations this clenching is related to the large intestines. Please read the posts and begin doing the Abdominal Massage nightly. Also to reduce the inflammation, follow the Blood Type Diet.
      Pat

  36. Mary A. Larson on March 28, 2019 at 4:22 am

    Concerning using White Oak Bark for receding gums. How many weeks or months etc. is considered quickly for seeing improvement? I just had my teeth cleaned and I have 4 months until my next appointment in which the dentist will be filling the receding area with a porcelain filling. I want to try the white oak bark to see how much improvement will take place till then.

    • PatBlockND on June 6, 2019 at 8:03 am

      Well Mary, my crystal ball is in the shop so I cannot predict your results.
      Gum problems portend more serious circulation and potentially heart problems. Gum issues are also a result of inflammation. So do this diet strictly as well as the White Oak Bark and I think you will see good results.
      Pat

  37. Rosa on April 12, 2019 at 6:09 am

    Hi Pat!
    I clicked on the link that leads to NSP’s Black Walnut (http://patblocknd.net/?sn=90-8) – and the info in there contradicts yours on this page. They say Black Walnut powder may whiten teeth if left on them overnight; whereas you advise to not leave it on teeth for more than 15 min. because it may stain the teeth. I was just wondering which information is correct…

    Frankly, considering what I know about black walnut, your advice makes more sense. Those walnuts really stain everything! Now, I just think it’d be more appropriate to delete that piece of information on the other page (where you sell the product), for some people may try whitening their teeth this way just to find out later their teeth had turned even darker! 😉

    Great pages you have here, though! I’m enjoying the education!

    • PatBlockND on April 12, 2019 at 7:10 am

      Thank you Rosa for your kind words. Blank Walnut shouldn’t stain teeth whose enamel is in tact. However, tooth pastes have abrasives in them and many people have enamel scored by vigorous brushing with abrasives. Some dental offices use these types of cleaners too. For these reasons I caution against leaving black walnut on a long time. White Oak Bark is helpful to restore enamel and astringe the gums as I have described here.
      Pat

  38. jc on February 10, 2023 at 2:21 pm

    Thank you Pat.

    Can i use cotton ball vs flannel at night?

    Is there a way to repair tooth if it is dead/non-vital — the dentist/entodontist said that it was non-vital, but it doesn’t feel dead. i am going back for x-rays in 2 months after trying this protocol.

    i have the myrrh, thyme and clove and will try this out for sure!

    re the PEMF — i live in Los Angeles, do you know of any people to meet with who are experts or have these machines to do some work on my jaw that’s in issue?

    thanks so much for your help. so very helpful to know my options.

    cheers,
    jc

    • PatBlockND on February 26, 2016 at 10:34 am

      Hey jc,
      You want something that can distribute the EOs along the gum. My concern with cotton is that it might hold the EOs inside the fibers rather than hold the EOs against the gums. You can try other flat fabrics too.
      Please read this post to prepare for any medical intervention.
      I will send you info on the PEMF and you can contact the company to see if local practitioners near you might have one.
      Pat

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